signatures of experience files : renaming, inheritance, editing, etc.

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signatures of experience files : renaming, inheritance, editing, etc.

Post by deeds » Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:53 pm

inheritance :

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Re: signatures of experience files : renaming, inheritance, editing, etc.

Post by deeds » Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:55 pm

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Re: signatures of experience files : renaming, inheritance, editing, etc.

Post by deeds » Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:59 pm

editing :

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From start position, it takes 25 days 24/7 on 36 threads until D70, imagine until D100+ without a cluster loool

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Re: signatures of experience files : renaming, inheritance, editing, etc.

Post by hungtranvn » Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:48 am

Oh! terrible, only good machines can achieve such depth. At 104 depth for d4 and e4 is the best move, but only +0.04 and +0.03 are also balanced

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Re: signatures of experience files : renaming, inheritance, editing, etc.

Post by deeds » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:31 am

And when the hardware isn't big :arrow: editing of experience data

When there isn't experience data trained by the own engine :arrow: renaming another exp file

When there wasn't training :arrow: merging several exp files

Etc.

At least since the November 5, 2022 patch, these people have either corrupted their exp file or started from scratch :lol:

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Re: signatures of experience files : renaming, inheritance, editing, etc.

Post by rulleeeee » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:28 am

hey deeds. If I remember correctly, you once wrote not to use multipv in Eman because he gets too much knowledge about one position and it makes him play worse? slower? I don't remember exactly but I think you said something like that. Has anything changed so far? Is multipv now advisable to enable this option?

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Re: signatures of experience files : renaming, inheritance, editing, etc.

Post by deeds » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:09 pm

Yes, I confirm that is still the case.

I guess you told about this feature :
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With Experience MultiPV set to true (default), few of moves with shallow depth are written to the experience file :
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And as you can see, these optional moves :
- don't help improve the quality of the most efficient move
- they just make the file heavier
- it takes longer to load it
- it takes longer to defrag it
- it unnecessarily slows down the engine

[for engine trainers] if we reinforce this position, the experience data become more consistent :
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Re: signatures of experience files : renaming, inheritance, editing, etc.

Post by hungtranvn » Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:35 pm

Dear Deed!
It is true that, choosing Experience Mulpv will appear bad moves. In my settings, I click on "Experience Book" and "Experience Book best Move" - that's good, right?


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Re: signatures of experience files : renaming, inheritance, editing, etc.

Post by deeds » Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:24 am

merging :

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