Save what possible on CCC

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Re: Save what possible on CCC

Postby Hood » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:29 pm

It is up to you. :-).

You can lose the battle not losing the war. Stepping back is not good policy.
That forum is perfect but it is an island in an ocean and can be conquered :-), do we think they will let us the peace? We need more islands. Fighting for freedom is not easy.

Lets image what the 'capitalists' dreams are -ban all the free spirits from CCC, if they have gone away by themselves it is the best solution for us. We will have silence in our area and free hands to invade ;-) open's.

'capitalist' ? you can call them communists either. :-) The matter is about totalitarism, globalism, absolute power etc. not about capitalism or communism.
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Re: Save what possible on CCC

Postby Harvey Williamson » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:33 pm

Hood wrote:It is up to you. :-).

You can lose the battle not losing the war. Stepping back is not good policy.
That forum is perfect but it is an island in an ocean and can be conquered :-), do we think they will let us the peace? We need more islands. Fighting for freedom is not easy.

Lets image what the 'capitalists' dreams are -ban all the free spirits from CCC, if they have gone away by themselves it is the best solution for us. We will have silence in our area and free hands to invade ;-) open's.

'capitalist' ? you can call them communists either. :-) The matter is about totalitarism, globalism, absolute power etc. not about capitalism or communism.


I thought it was about Computer Chess :roll:
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Re: Save what possible on CCC

Postby thorstenczub » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:46 pm

Hood wrote:It is up to you. :-).

You can lose the battle not losing the war. Stepping back is not good policy.
That forum is perfect but it is an island in an ocean and can be conquered :-), do we think they will let us the peace? We need more islands. Fighting for freedom is not easy.

Lets image what the 'capitalists' dreams are -ban all the free spirits from CCC, if they have gone away by themselves it is the best solution for us. We will have silence in our area and free hands to invade ;-) open's.

'capitalist' ? you can call them communists either. :-) The matter is about totalitarism, globalism, absolute power etc. not about capitalism or communism.


in a democratic community you can fight against people with different opinion
by doing elections. but you cannot fight with kidnappers , terrorists, blackmailers,
mobbers etc.

while you refer on fair and legal ways, democratically and with ethics not to surpress
free speech and pluralism, they misuse their position to press the delete/red-button.

If you fight them, your hands will be dirty.
because you touch them when you hold them in distance.
i don't want to make my hands dirty with people who stone others
for piracy while blackmailing and looking for pirated/cracked software themselves.

i let these 2 faced people all by themselves.
shall they stone each other and delete themselves until they are dead.

look. we did it in 1997, because RGCC was "broken",
and now CCC is broken. No big deal.
we can start it at anytime anywhere again and let the bean counters
discuss why they excluded this program or why they banned this member
or why they deleted this posting or why they moved this posting
and and and.

they need this.
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Re: Save what possible on CCC

Postby Hood » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:31 am

"Clean hands..., new place ..."
Is it not about an escape ?

Lets imagine we have created sth., someone 'bad' is going to destroy, we are leaving giving him free choice.
If we will not face him, it will be repeated continously. :-(
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Re: Save what possible on CCC

Postby thorstenczub » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:17 pm

Hood wrote:"Clean hands..., new place ..."
Is it not about an escape ?

Lets imagine we have created sth., someone 'bad' is going to destroy, we are leaving giving him free choice.
If we will not face him, it will be repeated continously. :-(


we fought these people many years.
the only thing you can do is leaving them alone.
and discuss somewhere else.
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Re: Save what possible on CCC

Postby Hood » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:21 pm

thorstenczub wrote:the only thing you can do is leaving them alone.
and discuss somewhere else.



they will come after you :-( untill they meet resistance
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Re: Save what possible on CCC

Postby jack lad » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:28 pm

Chris Whittington wrote:Bear in mind that Frohlick was contracted by Schwartz (the shop) to make those posts, continuously, relentlessly - Frohlick himself admitted it. So you have to ask yourself what kind of site the shop actually wanted - a forum for all views? Or something suitable for their American market?

That is quite an accusation Chris! :shock:
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Re: Save what possible on CCC

Postby thorstenczub » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:39 pm

sometimes things die.
thats how life works.

we fought since 1996.
when rgcc was destroyed. we were arround 40 people (from all over the world!) who wanted to rescue the forum. therefore CCC was founded.

now CCC is destroyed.

for me , personally, the fight began much earlier. when i
reviewed and tested dedicated chess computers in an area
dominated by business guys who were not interested in
truth about the machines but instead interested in making
money by lieing about the truth.

:roll:

i learned very early that those people are not interested
in facts, or people. or even computerchess. but money.
they were interested in exploiting computerchess
for their own purpose of making money. i learned
that you cannot stop them destroying people or
truth, or computerchess.

situation now has changed much. most of those business
guys are gone. which is IMO a big progress. computerchess
is FREE. but there are still enough people not interested
in the topic but instead interested in mobbing others,
playing police or attacking people because they do not
agree with them.

when ICD secretely implemented a person to be ADMIN
and moderator in ONE person, without telling anybody,
this was the beginning of the company taking over control.

we build CCC to give the programmers and computerchess
interested a platform. with democratically elected moderators
and a charta NOT to intervene in the content of the forum.

we wanted to give them back the platform rgcc was before
discussions there were completely impossible. made by a
few trolls.

now the situation in CCC and CTF has shifted.
CCC and CTF are not anymore the platform for computerchess
enthusiasts.

it has been taken over by a group of people mainly interested in power
and mobbing out those who have made it possible for decades
to do computerchess.

IMO you cannot REPAIR this.
these people will stay there.
let them.

its now all theirs.

they can post their christian preaches and racistic shit
all over the place, they can blackmail each other now.
they can witch hunt each other.

let those people stay in their conquered platform.

they are now under themselves and can ENJOY their "social" behaviour
of mobbing, blackmailing, posting racistic shit and
witch hunt any minority they wish to throw stones on.

you remember when the hard-liners in the kreml kidnapped
gorbatschow ?

it was the end of the UdSSR.

it is the end of CCC/CTF.

they took over. but the system implodes in their hands.
because their intention is not honest.
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Re: Save what possible on CCC

Postby orgfert » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:40 pm

Chris Whittington wrote:Bear in mind that Frohlick was contracted by Schwartz (the shop) to make those posts, continuously, relentlessly - Frohlick himself admitted it. So you have to ask yourself what kind of site the shop actually wanted - a forum for all views? Or something suitable for their American market?


Which is easier to believe?

A) Frohlick actually receives remuneration for trolling -- your "contract" (Schwarz is gone some years now, I believe).
B) You were punked by Fohlick's claim that Schwarz "hired" him to troll.
C) You are using Frohlick's bullshit in the private CTF as cheap propaganda to score points against the public CCC, a place that has occupied the center of your dart board a decade at the very least.

"A" sounds patently ridiculous. And you're way too smart for B. (Or are you?) That leaves us with C.

One can be forgiven for wondering whether the other shots you've fired in this thread have also fallen short of veracity.
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Re: Save what possible on CCC

Postby Gerold » Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:59 pm

orgfert wrote:
Chris Whittington wrote:Bear in mind that Frohlick was contracted by Schwartz (the shop) to make those posts, continuously, relentlessly - Frohlick himself admitted it. So you have to ask yourself what kind of site the shop actually wanted - a forum for all views? Or something suitable for their American market?


Which is easier to believe?

A) Frohlick actually receives remuneration for trolling -- your "contract" (Schwarz is gone some years now, I believe).
B) You were punked by Fohlick's claim that Schwarz "hired" him to troll.
C) You are using Frohlick's bullshit in the private CTF as cheap propaganda to score points against the public CCC, a place that has occupied the center of your dart board a decade at the very least.

"A" sounds patently ridiculous. And you're way too smart for B. (Or are you?) That leaves us with C.

One can be forgiven for wondering whether the other shots you've fired in this thread have also fallen short of veracity.


CCC is alive and well. It seems just about all the founders of open chess his gone.
Still a little testing going on but not near enough.
I said before and i say again i will continue to post here to try and keep it open.
Maybe i can get some help from CCC.

Best,
Gerold.

P.S. Most of the posts in here are from CCC and a couple of smaller forums.
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