TCEC Tournament 1 - Long TC Live Broadcast! R4-SF-Houdini ++

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Martin Thoresen
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TCEC Tournament 1 - Long TC Live Broadcast! R4-SF-Houdini ++

Post by Martin Thoresen » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:39 pm

Live Broadcast

Click Here - Updated Each ~3 Minutes

For Live Chat & Relay Please Visit http://chessbomb.com/o/2010-tcec/
Note: Don't pay too much attention to their computer analysis since it's running multi-pv which slows it down considerably.

Misc:
Openings: Neutral Opening Book - Up To 8 Moves
Tournament Length: 30 Games - Format: Double Round Robin
CPU: Intel Core i7 920 @ 4050 MHz - OS: Windows 7 Professional x64

Participants:
Houdini 1.03a 64-bit 4CPU
Stockfish 1.8 64-bit 4CPU
Naum 4.2 64-bit 4CPU
Critter 0.80 64-bit 4CPU
Shredder 12 64-bit 4CPU
Rybka 4 64-bit 4CPU

Time Control:
120 Minutes For The First 40 Moves - 60 Minutes For The Next 20 Moves
15 Minutes For The Rest + 30 Seconds Added Per Move From Move 61

Graphical User Interface:
Type: Deep Fritz 12
Resign: "Late" - Draw: "Late" - Ponder: Off - Hash: 2048 MB
Nalimov Tablebases: "3 4 5 Men" For Rybka, Naum & Shredder
Shredderbases: "Fast 3 4 5 Men" For Shredder
Gaviota Tablebases: "3 4 5 Men" For Critter
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Re: TCEC Tournament 1 - Long TC Live Broadcast! R4-SF-Houdin

Post by Vael Jean-Paul » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:59 pm

This gonne be great..Houdini 1.03a will win this tournament!

Martin,if you are planning to continue these testings then i think it's interesting to have this as a base.
now 30 games..later you can dubble it or put a new engine in this tournament..and like this you will make a great list :D
Just a idea!

JP.

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Re: TCEC Tournament 1 - Long TC Live Broadcast! R4-SF-Houdin

Post by Martin Thoresen » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:43 pm

Stockfish got the first victory of the tournament, with it's win in round 8 vs Critter.
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Re: TCEC Tournament 1 - Long TC Live Broadcast! R4-SF-Houdin

Post by Vael Jean-Paul » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:53 pm

I was waiting when the first point will be there..it's like they are afraid to make a point..but the fight will begin ;)

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Re: TCEC Tournament 1 - Long TC Live Broadcast! R4-SF-Houdin

Post by Martin Thoresen » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:18 pm

Vael Jean-Paul wrote:I was waiting when the first point will be there..it's like they are afraid to make a point..but the fight will begin ;)
It has indeed started!

Also, I didn't mean round 8 but "game 8" of the tournament (round 3).
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Re: TCEC Tournament 1 - Long TC Live Broadcast! R4-SF-Houdin

Post by TPJR » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:39 am

Do the engines play the same opening against each other? The current opening in the game Houdini - Stockfish is quite disadvantageous for white. To make it fair, the same opening should be played in the rematch Stockfish - Houdini.

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Re: TCEC Tournament 1 - Long TC Live Broadcast! R4-SF-Houdin

Post by Martin Thoresen » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:23 pm

TPJR wrote:Do the engines play the same opening against each other? The current opening in the game Houdini - Stockfish is quite disadvantageous for white. To make it fair, the same opening should be played in the rematch Stockfish - Houdini.
Hello,

As a book is used and not a PGN I can't change the opening for each game.

The reason that a book was used was that the use of a PGN in Fritz GUI when running a round-robin offers no choice of a different opening each round, only each cycle which would mean 1 opening for the whole tournament if engines were to play both black and white pieces against each other.

In the matches, however, the use of a PGN is no problem.

Best Regards,
Martin
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Re: TCEC Tournament 1 - Long TC Live Broadcast! R4-SF-Houdin

Post by pareto » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:52 pm

How about playing a double round robin afterwards with these 6 or even the best 8 engines, but without any opening book? No more arbitrary opening choices, but the need for each engine to show its chess understanding from the first move.

As the "best first moves" of these engines all slightly differ, you get a variation of openings and still absolutely equal chances. Would be interesting to see which openings they play into, given so much time and computing power, and how the results differ from a the current tournament, where they can start with the middlegame.

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Re: TCEC Tournament 1 - Long TC Live Broadcast! R4-SF-Houdin

Post by Martin Thoresen » Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:33 pm

pareto wrote:How about playing a double round robin afterwards with these 6 or even the best 8 engines, but without any opening book? No more arbitrary opening choices, but the need for each engine to show its chess understanding from the first move.

As the "best first moves" of these engines all slightly differ, you get a variation of openings and still absolutely equal chances. Would be interesting to see which openings they play into, given so much time and computing power, and how the results differ from a the current tournament, where they can start with the middlegame.
Yes, it's an interesting idea. I am not sure how people would receive it, though, or how good the openings would be. But it would be fun to try it once.
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Re: TCEC Tournament 1 - Long TC Live Broadcast! R4-SF-Houdin

Post by Martin Thoresen » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:11 pm

I have changed servers and added a domain-name, so the adress is now:

http://www.tcec-chess.org
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