Experiment with GUI's

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Experiment with GUI's

Post by Swaminathan » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:40 am

I think it would be a good idea to test single engine/STS under different GUI's specifying the certain conditions.

To see how consistent the results are with respect to GUI used, and correlation.

So far these are the GUI's/tools which support EPD testing:

Chessbase
Arena
GradTest
ChessGUI

anything else? Could somebody who own Shredder GUI, ChessPartner, Aquarium try this experiment?
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Re: Experiment with GUI's

Post by Ted Summers » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:08 pm

Hi,

Could post a link to the STS, I will try it in the other GUI's when I get time.
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Re: Experiment with GUI's

Post by kingliveson » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:19 pm

Swaminathan wrote:I think it would be a good idea to test single engine/STS under different GUI's specifying the certain conditions.

To see how consistent the results are with respect to GUI used, and correlation.

So far these are the GUI's/tools which support EPD testing:

Chessbase
Arena
GradTest
ChessGUI

anything else? Could somebody who own Shredder GUI, ChessPartner, Aquarium try this experiment?
No reason for results to vary more than 2 percent from one gui to another since they are all using the same protocol. Lag may be the only difference. I could be wrong however.
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Re: Experiment with GUI's

Post by Swaminathan » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:20 pm

Ted Summers wrote:Hi,

Could post a link to the STS, I will try it in the other GUI's when I get time.
Thanks for the help, Ted. Really appreciated.

Here is the link to download each one of them:

http://sites.google.com/site/strategict ... /downloads
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Re: Experiment with GUI's

Post by Swaminathan » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:21 pm

kingliveson wrote:
Swaminathan wrote:I think it would be a good idea to test single engine/STS under different GUI's specifying the certain conditions.

To see how consistent the results are with respect to GUI used, and correlation.

So far these are the GUI's/tools which support EPD testing:

Chessbase
Arena
GradTest
ChessGUI

anything else? Could somebody who own Shredder GUI, ChessPartner, Aquarium try this experiment?
No reason for results to vary more than 2 percent from one gui to another since they are all using the same protocol. Lag may be the only difference. I could be wrong however.
I think that chessbase or Grad Test tool have the least "lag". It would be interesting to try out anyway :)
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Re: Experiment with GUI's

Post by Swaminathan » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:28 pm

We could also get some idea about which GUI's are reporting vast differences than others.
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Re: Experiment with GUI's

Post by Octopus » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:06 pm

A GUI might not necessarily be neutral. Maybe there exists a GUI, which cheats in favor for a specific engine by supporting that program e.g. by live sent information about actual best moves or their evaluations e.g. using hidden information channels - who knows ... ?

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Re: Experiment with GUI's

Post by istolacio » Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:37 pm

I use Polyglot to analyze epd files
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Re: Experiment with GUI's

Post by Sentinel » Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:45 pm

Swaminathan wrote:I think that chessbase or Grad Test tool have the least "lag". It would be interesting to try out anyway :)
Actually Winboard has the least "lag". But it doesn't support EPD testing.

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Re: Experiment with GUI's

Post by Swaminathan » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:03 am

Sentinel wrote:
Swaminathan wrote:I think that chessbase or Grad Test tool have the least "lag". It would be interesting to try out anyway :)
Actually Winboard has the least "lag". But it doesn't support EPD testing.

Too bad, I wish H.G Muller would implement a feature because it would really be helpful.
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