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Homayoun wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:47 pm

Homayoun wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:40 pm Thanks for very kind words and positive opinion to me.
Stay tuned, dear friend.

I mean, I am waiting and following updates. ( I wrote wrongly).

UPDATE

Another new exiting Duel is organized, where
This time, both players NON-NN: 2015 vs 2020
Komodo 9 (45m+10s) vs Cfish 030820 (30s+06s)

Yes...via latest Duel, we noticed also that
Fast Bullet 2020 is dominant over Slow 2015:
GAMES
https://mega.nz/file/PoYVHLDZ#GWCB_39-k ... WPHrC8JDXA

For more 'Past vs Present' Duels:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... vs-present

As final words, let Me say also please:

If you don't know the past, learn from it, if not:
You are a pawn that unaware it's a piece of chess.
Moreover, the present is a gift, just enjoy it...
Most important, face your future with no fear!

Best,
Sedat

UPDATE

Well, just another great, exiting DUEL is coming:
CM9000 Gladiator (45m+10s) vs Rybka 3 (30s+0.6s)
In short, The Duel of Titans: 2002 vs 2008

Some Notes:
Chessmaster 9000 is released in 2002 (22 years ago) and
It is one of the most popular chess programs on this planet!
And will play via Gladiator settings, created by Me in past,
Same words are going for Rybka, best of the best in past..!.
As I stated earlier, Rybka 3 is released in 2008 (16 years ago)

Yes..in past, both my favorite engines were as real beast!
Let's see what will be the situation under these new cond.
Note: theirs Elo diff. should be 300 - 400 Elo, but anyhow
No any idea who will win...really hard tıo guess.. after all
Time will tell...good luck to both players.. !)

Greetings

UPDATE 2

This time no Winner... both Titans performed with equal points!
In the end 'The Gladiator' is here ) not easy opponent for sure !)
You know, and as I mentioned before: I never play for 2nd place!
Just joking ..) but in old times, CM9 Gladiator was not soft touch..
And all of current 4 (four) wins are came only with Whites colors:

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/X8JgFYyJ#dvqcQFUWK ... Za9EYM_wlU


Note also that
Normally theirs difference should be about 300-400 Elo,
Be aware too, both engines are played without any book
And both players are used same hash table size: 64 MB

More Details,
These kind of matches are remembered the old good times,
Something like watching favorite movies, which never die !)
Sure it's also clear that the old-dated eng of past are much
More potential to play often blunders, e.g Rybka confirms at
Fast Bullet but I can't say same words for latest Top engines!
For anyone missed, you can check / compare other: Results
Besides, you can check other tour: In The Name of Gladiator

As alternative, tour's other page:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... st-vs-past


Best,
Sedat

Dear Friends,

Meanwhile, just I'd like to inform you that
New exiting NNUE CS is coming very soon !!

Note that this time as Players will be
Public chess engines and only up to 25 MB
(sure in uncompressed size) will be allowed!

Yes..this is a new idea..actually in most of
My organized contests, SCCT has size rules..
Especially in Book, plus some Eng tours too,
And why 'Size' rules are so important?

1st reason,
Sure for more fair conditions, if not.. just imagine,
We play each other... I will use 100 MB, but
You will use 5 MB, what many guys will say ?!
Not FAIR at all...right ?) or maybe here I'm
Missing something ?

2nd reason,
Via HUGE assistance any fool can play stronger!
But a small note, as most important/impressive:
What about playing with less help (assistance) ?!

By the way,
Some Book Authors..plus I've created many tiny (1-2 MB) books,
Which performed not so so bad...and just only a few of them,
DON Hercules, Optimus etc.. are managed to be Winners !!
Especially DON Hercules series shocked many many times...!
And why not smaller Engines in size to be not Winners too ?
On other hand, even 25 MB is not so small..but if limiting less..
Then I'm afraid that I've to switch to Classic (NON-NN) tours

3rd reason,
Simply to save free hard disk space and time..
You may know, time is money! Moreover,
It's ideal when my hardware contains more space!
Like, it's nice and relax to live in BIG room )

And let's see under these hard conditions..
Which Engines will be the Best of Best ?

And please stay tuned.. more info soon..


Greetings )

Just I'd like to add,
As far as possible, in new tour: 3500+ Elo players will be participated
Because I've no interest to test...e.g if NNUE (playing via assistance)
And to be weaker..we are in 2024, sorry and thanks for understanding!

UPDATE

NNUE LIV's Candidates CS 3700+
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NNUE LIV's Candidates CS 3500+

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/ytBQySaT#13PHqI-uP ... 2Js9IBNkC8


And please stay tuned...
Very soon BIG update is coming,
And with so many players...e.g
if I'm not wrong: 41 engines !

And later...
This tour stats will be not so bad indicator
About comparing Eng Size / Performance!
Sure up to 25 MB (uncompressed) ...

By the way, if you are goıing to ask the
Overall size of current 41 players are
Close to 250 MB in compressed !!

And just imagine again...e.g there are
Such eng releases, I mean as single, but
They are much bigger in size than 41...

If not so clear, to see the reality..
You have to be in my shoes.. !)

A small note more, only for the current CS,
I downloaded/tested over than 70 engines!
Even not mentioning the opening books ..)

Ok friends...see you later )
And have a nice weekend...

Breaking News (03.08.2024):
Just another exiting CS... but this time, as far as possible 3500+ played!
1st of all, it seems all stable..no any game is recorded to be lost on time!!
What's new? in LIV CS: there is a new rule: up to 25 MB (uncompressed)..
Moreover, exc some oldies..a lot of new vers. are entered but as main diff.
Via this CS...current participants are played under more 'fair' conditions !!
Why I say like that ? E.g in case of playing via HUGE assistance is not like
Climbing to mountain Everest )..in short: Come with 'small' data and win !)
On other hand, usually in our tours : there are no strict rules, many prefer
In tests something like 'Cage Fighting' but how much is this fair ?) At least
Via these cond. I've done my best a fair fight to be and strongest to win..!
Yes..this time, Berserk is said the last word but with clear margin, great!
Obsidian is 2nd..nice too, 3rd rank is SFS 100224 not so bad as well! but
To be honest, here I'm a little surprised..e.g usually SF ones are Winners..
And as I stated earlier, no one can be on Top forever, right ?) By the way,
We have a new Pocket Hercules: Starzix 5..yes, it's less than 2 MB), but
Performed very good... so once more we noticed that not only via Books,
Also via Engines, where the powerful moves may appear by very small
Players (in size) too! and as usual I wish to say: thanks for your interest..

NNUE LIV's Champion: Berserk 13 - My Congratulations to Jay Honnold!

For FULL Standings, Games etc:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-54

Have fun

Great tournament. Thank you very much Sedat. Although Koivisto hasn’t been updated for more than one year but it’s result wasn’t so bad. Better than viridithas, uralochka and some other new engines. Koivisto was very good engine. I hope koivisto authors resume updating the engine.
Best regards

Homayoun wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:48 pm Great tournament. Thank you very much Sedat. Although Koivisto hasn’t been updated for more than one year but it’s result wasn’t so bad. Better than viridithas, uralochka and some other new engines. Koivisto was very good engine. I hope koivisto authors resume updating the engine.
Best regards

Not at all Homayoun )

A good point!

Yes I'm amazed at Koivisto's performance too, but not being..
It's impossible, besides as old-dated, released 1.5 years ago!

Sure as same words are going for Ditto 130221 as well and
Iı's one of the oldies for example released 3.5 years ago!

But however, after all:
If you want to increase your chances of success on Everest,
Newer and stronger ideas, updates are required for sure..
Where Berserk 13 is managed to do that...with 3775 Elo !!

Greetings