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Re: Blunder's lottery

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[Event "SCCT - EvalFile CS"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2024.10.05"]
[Round "68"]
[White "nn-86aaa607b31b"]
[Black "nn-a909389cbe3a"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C51"]
[PlyCount "148"]
[EventDate "2024.??.??"]
[Source "SC"]
[TimeControl "30"]

1. e4 {book} e5 {book} 2. Nf3 {book} Nc6 {book} 3. Bc4 {book} Bc5 {book} 4. b4
{book} Bxb4 {book} 5. c3 {book} Bc5 {book} 6. d4 {book} exd4 {book} 7. O-O {
book} d6 {book} 8. cxd4 {book} Bb6 {book} 9. h3 {+0.35/23 2.0s} Na5 {
-0.31/24 3.4s} 10. Bd3 {+0.32/20 0.57s} Ne7 {-0.30/20 0.37s} 11. Nc3 {
+0.35/21 0.57s} O-O {-0.30/18 0.51s} 12. Rb1 {+0.34/21 0.60s} Ng6 {
-0.34/22 3.9s} 13. Kh1 {+0.33/21 1.7s} c6 {-0.30/16 0.34s} 14. Qc2 {
+0.45/20 1.6s} Be6 {-0.16/23 3.4s} 15. Nh2 {+0.32/18 0.85s} d5 {+0.02/20 0.57s}
16. exd5 {-0.23/23 7.1s} cxd5 {+0.40/19 0.89s} 17. f4 {-0.17/20 0.33s} f5 {
+0.41/20 0.37s} 18. Nf3 {-0.20/22 0.69s} Rc8 {+0.20/25 1.6s} 19. Qe2 {
-0.23/18 0.41s} Re8 {+0.21/20 0.41s} 20. Na4 {-0.18/19 0.53s} Nc4 {
+0.18/19 0.63s} 21. Nxb6 {-0.20/21 1.7s} axb6 {+0.21/18 0.57s} 22. a4 {
-0.16/20 0.78s} Nf8 {+0.18/21 2.9s} 23. Kh2 {-0.12/19 0.37s} Qd7 {+0.03/22 2.8s
} 24. Rb5 {-0.08/21 1.3s} Qd6 {+0.11/18 0.41s} 25. Ne5 {-0.06/19 0.52s} Nd7 {
+0.07/17 0.62s} 26. Bd2 {0.00/25 1.1s} Nf6 {+0.06/17 0.57s} 27. Bb4 {
0.00/25 0.59s} Qd8 {0.00/22 1.6s} 28. Be1 {0.00/24 0.41s} Bd7 {-0.01/23 1.0s}
29. Rb4 {-0.04/18 0.60s} Be6 {-0.01/21 1.0s} 30. Bh4 {0.00/23 0.41s} Qd6 {
-0.04/16 0.39s} 31. Rfb1 {+0.13/18 0.66s} Bd7 {-0.13/23 5.4s} 32. Qd1 {
+0.13/22 2.8s} Ne4 {-0.16/18 0.40s} 33. Qh5 {+0.21/21 1.5s} Rf8 {-0.19/18 0.43s
} 34. Be1 {+0.20/17 0.25s} Be8 {-0.16/21 1.8s} 35. Qe2 {+0.25/20 0.39s} b5 {
-0.24/19 0.43s} 36. axb5 {+0.27/19 0.38s} Bf7 {-0.27/19 0.38s} 37. Ra1 {
+0.25/21 0.48s} Qh6 {-0.33/18 0.47s} 38. Bg3 {+0.15/25 1.3s} Nxg3 {
-0.20/20 0.87s} 39. Kxg3 {+0.19/22 0.36s} g5 {-0.23/19 0.48s} 40. Kh2 {
+0.16/19 0.60s} Nd6 {-0.30/19 0.37s} 41. Qd2 {+0.32/23 1.2s} gxf4 {
-0.35/19 0.69s} 42. Rf1 {+0.30/19 0.48s} Ne4 {-0.33/19 0.35s} 43. Bxe4 {
+0.30/22 1.4s} dxe4 {-0.36/17 0.41s} 44. Rxf4 {+0.33/18 0.27s} Kh8 {
-0.40/21 0.69s} 45. Rb2 {+0.30/20 0.35s} Be6 {-0.32/17 0.28s} 46. Qe3 {
+0.23/17 0.78s} Qg5 {-0.34/16 0.27s} 47. h4 {+0.23/26 5.6s} Qe7 {-0.26/17 0.41s
} 48. g3 {+0.20/16 0.20s} Rg8 {-0.25/23 1.8s} 49. Rff2 {+0.22/18 0.30s} Rg7 {
-0.26/17 0.24s} 50. Rbc2 {+0.24/19 0.49s} Rd8 {-0.24/20 1.1s} 51. Rfd2 {
+0.13/23 1.8s} Rdg8 {-0.25/17 0.20s} 52. Rg2 {+0.09/21 0.58s} b6 {
-0.25/15 0.32s} 53. Qh6 {+0.31/20 0.90s} Bd5 {-0.28/18 0.50s} 54. Rg1 {
+0.28/17 0.23s} Qe8 {-0.11/21 0.60s} 55. Rf2 {+0.13/25 1.3s} Qe6 {
-0.16/20 0.78s} 56. Qf4 {+0.11/20 0.35s} Qe7 {-0.21/19 0.87s} 57. Rfg2 {
+0.12/24 0.68s} Qb4 {-0.10/21 1.9s} 58. Qxf5 {+0.20/17 0.40s} e3 {
-0.12/18 0.17s} 59. Re2 {+0.35/19 0.42s} Qxb5 {-0.09/23 0.32s} 60. Rge1 {
+0.38/17 0.28s} Qb4 {-0.04/21 0.31s} 61. Rxe3 {+0.48/19 0.67s} Rxg3 {
-0.02/23 0.36s} 62. Qf6+ {+0.30/21 0.35s} R3g7 {0.00/21 0.47s} 63. h5 {
+0.03/30 1.2s} Rf8 {-0.03/24 0.44s} 64. Nf7+ {+0.01/23 0.30s} Kg8 {
-0.08/18 0.27s} 65. h6 {+0.02/22 0.57s} Rg2+ {-0.11/21 0.43s} 66. Kh3 {
0.00/27 0.27s} Bxf7 {0.00/22 0.28s} 67. Qe5 {+2.93/28 0.61s} Rg6 {0.00/33 0.36s
} 68. Rg1 {+4.14/14 0.41s} Rxg1 {-4.45/19 1.2s} 69. Rg3+ {+4.41/13 0.28s} Rxg3+
{-4.99/20 0.82s} 70. Kxg3 {+4.36/20 0.43s} Qc3+ {-4.67/16 0.44s} 71. Kh4 {
+5.41/17 0.46s} Qe1+ {-4.48/16 0.65s} 72. Qxe1 {+5.28/18 0.37s} Rd8 {
-6.14/22 3.6s} 73. Qe5 {+5.52/16 0.39s} Kf8 {-6.29/17 0.31s} 74. Qh8+ {
+5.77/17 0.49s} Ke7 {-6.48/18 0.47s, White wins by adjudication} 1-0
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Re: Blunder's lottery

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[Event "SCCT - EvalFile CS"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2024.10.05"]
[Round "159"]
[White "nn-f4eea2f8fd9c"]
[Black "nn-c721dfca8cd3"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A09"]
[PlyCount "139"]
[EventDate "2024.??.??"]
[Source "SC"]
[TimeControl "30"]

1. Nf3 {book} d5 {book} 2. c4 {book} d4 {book} 3. b4 {book} Nf6 {book} 4. g3 {
book} c5 {book} 5. Bb2 {book} a5 {book} 6. b5 {book} Qc7 {book} 7. d3 {book} e5
{book} 8. e3 {book} h6 {book} 9. Bg2 {book} Be6 {book} 10. Qe2 {-0.33/25 6.6s}
Bd6 {+0.22/24 3.4s} 11. a3 {-0.27/21 2.3s} Nbd7 {+0.46/21 1.2s} 12. a4 {
-0.22/16 0.36s} O-O-O {+0.47/20 0.60s} 13. Na3 {-0.08/18 0.37s} Rhe8 {
+0.39/27 4.2s} 14. b6 {0.00/18 0.72s} Qxb6 {+0.45/18 0.46s} 15. O-O {
-0.15/24 3.8s} Nb8 {+0.42/18 0.51s} 16. Rab1 {-0.26/22 3.6s} Qa6 {
+0.32/20 0.77s} 17. Nxe5 {-0.42/23 4.4s} Bxe5 {+0.77/18 0.40s} 18. Bxd4 {
-0.42/17 0.26s} cxd4 {+0.28/23 1.5s} 19. Bxb7+ {-0.21/17 0.51s} Qxb7 {
+0.29/24 0.58s} 20. Rxb7 {-0.12/18 0.43s} Kxb7 {+0.23/22 0.42s} 21. Qb2+ {
-0.19/26 1.3s} Kc8 {+0.22/22 0.62s} 22. Rb1 {-0.26/18 0.57s} Rd7 {
+0.21/21 0.63s} 23. f4 {-0.05/18 0.39s} Bd6 {+0.10/26 4.9s} 24. c5 {
0.00/22 0.31s} Bc7 {+0.01/20 0.46s} 25. Qb7+ {0.00/20 0.40s} Kd8 {0.00/22 0.38s
} 26. e4 {0.00/22 0.31s} Nd5 {0.00/25 0.53s} 27. f5 {0.00/23 0.40s} Nb4 {
0.00/27 0.51s} 28. Nb5 {0.00/28 0.57s} Bc4 {+2.18/29 3.3s} 29. dxc4 {
-2.15/22 2.9s} N4c6 {+2.21/18 0.27s} 30. Na7 {-2.15/20 0.30s} Nxa7 {
+2.28/17 0.42s} 31. Qxa7 {-2.18/19 0.32s} d3 {+2.19/19 0.39s} 32. Qa8 {
-2.31/27 2.4s} d2 {+2.31/21 0.44s} 33. Rd1 {-2.34/19 0.23s} Re5 {+2.29/21 0.50s
} 34. Kf2 {-2.39/24 0.58s} Rxc5 {+2.31/21 0.38s} 35. Ke3 {-2.31/19 0.31s} Ke7 {
+2.33/24 0.53s} 36. Rxd2 {-2.38/21 0.38s} Rxd2 {+2.38/21 0.67s} 37. Kxd2 {
-2.43/21 0.37s} Nd7 {+2.44/24 0.40s} 38. Qg8 {-2.38/21 0.38s} Kf6 {
+2.44/24 0.70s} 39. Ke2 {-2.47/24 1.3s} Ne5 {+2.55/22 0.69s} 40. Qc8 {
-2.47/19 0.20s} Rxc4 {+2.49/20 0.56s} 41. Kf1 {-2.44/21 0.34s} Rc2 {
+2.61/26 1.7s} 42. Ke1 {-2.52/21 0.53s} Rc4 {+2.66/19 0.27s} 43. Kf1 {
-2.47/22 0.43s} Kg5 {+2.61/21 0.60s} 44. h3 {-2.67/23 1.9s} Kf6 {+2.68/20 0.50s
} 45. h4 {-2.62/21 0.38s} Rc1+ {+2.65/24 1.5s} 46. Ke2 {-2.66/20 0.38s} h5 {
+2.62/28 2.1s} 47. Qa6+ {-2.61/21 1.4s} Ke7 {+2.60/22 0.34s} 48. Qb5 {
-2.47/21 0.40s} Kf8 {+2.71/24 1.0s} 49. Qa6 {-2.71/26 2.5s} Ke7 {+2.72/23 1.0s}
50. Qb5 {-2.68/18 0.32s} Rc2+ {+2.80/23 1.4s} 51. Ke1 {-2.68/26 2.7s} Kf8 {
+2.86/18 0.27s} 52. Qa6 {-2.60/21 0.51s} Kg8 {+2.93/20 0.55s} 53. f6 {
-2.52/20 0.20s} Kh7 {+2.87/19 0.31s} 54. fxg7 {-2.54/19 0.20s} Kxg7 {
+2.66/22 0.86s} 55. Kd1 {-2.48/17 0.26s} Rc5 {+2.65/21 0.68s} 56. Qa7 {
-2.53/19 0.32s} Rc3 {+2.48/28 2.0s} 57. Qf2 {-2.23/19 0.27s} Nc4 {
+4.02/22 0.96s} 58. Qa7 {-4.08/26 2.4s} Be5 {+3.77/21 0.35s} 59. Qb7 {
-4.26/25 1.7s} Rxg3 {+3.94/20 0.39s} 60. Ke2 {-4.27/21 0.33s} Re3+ {
+4.11/22 0.88s} 61. Kf2 {-4.15/19 0.15s} Bd4 {+4.52/18 0.24s} 62. Kg2 {
-4.33/19 0.46s} Rc3 {+4.41/21 0.60s} 63. Qb8 {-4.45/22 1.2s} Ne3+ {
+4.68/21 0.48s} 64. Kf2 {-4.44/17 0.13s} Rc2+ {+4.64/18 0.30s} 65. Kf3 {
-4.55/19 0.29s} Ng4 {+4.67/21 0.31s} 66. e5 {-4.80/21 0.45s} Rc3+ {
+4.68/20 0.63s} 67. Ke4 {-4.69/19 0.37s} Bf2 {+4.89/20 0.42s} 68. Qd8 {
-5.06/23 1.3s} Re3+ {+5.28/22 0.60s} 69. Kd4 {-5.21/19 0.27s} Rxe5+ {
+5.29/20 0.30s} 70. Kc4 {-5.27/17 0.43s, Black wins by adjudication} 0-1
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Re: Blunder's lottery

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deeds wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 8:26 am As we already saw, at SedatChess :
- book vs book matches are blunder's lotteries
- engine vs engine matches are blunder's lotteries
- exp file vs book matches are blunder's lotteries
Update :
- net vs net matches are blunder's lotteries
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Re: when a daily tester should review his tests

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Draw aficionados - Valuing Draws in Chess

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When they want us to believe that chess is static, that there are very few differences between engines, etc :

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Re: Draw aficionados - Valuing Draws in Chess

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What is the point behind this thread? We all know the draw ratios.
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Re: Draw aficionados - Valuing Draws in Chess

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moonstonelight wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:41 pm What is the point behind this thread? We all know the draw ratios.
See 1st sentence of 1st post.
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