Goodbye uncensored Open-Chess forum !

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Goodbye uncensored Open-Chess forum !

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Since I registered at Open-Chess on October 20, 2021, I've posted nearly 1,500 messages, created nearly 50 new topics, shared tools, source codes, data and knowledge.

With private messages disabled, Open-Chess members were able to express their opinions more often in public, reducing hypocrisy and revealing their affinities.

Without censorship :
- Open-Chess members could provide their evidence publicly,
- Open-Chess members could update their topics over several years,
- members of the same family could participate in the same Open-Chess topics with their respective accounts,
- etc.

After years of silence, the Open-Chess admin chose censorship as the future for his forum !

As censor, the Open-Chess' admin chose :
- someone who used spam as candidacy,
- an unproductive member who didn't create any topics nor chess engines nor opening books nor experience files nor chess tools,
- an ignorant member without knowledge on learning engines / experience files to censor those who share their knowledge/tools on these same subjects,
- etc.

So, before Open-Chess' censorship rewrote history :
- by renaming topics without the consent of their author (see #1),
- by attributing bad intentions to me,
- by merging topics with different themes (see #2),
- by attributing their failures to me,
- by deleting evidence (see #3),
I transfered all the topics that I had been updating for years from Open-Chess to Outskirts. As I'm only updating my Outskirts topics so no matter if my Open-Chess topics are renamed, shuffled or deleted, my Open-Chess topics are already deprecated !

As a bonus, I took this opportunity to correct many broken links and create an index to facilitate access to my Outskirts topics. On the left side, my indexed topics at Outskirts and on the right side, my censored and merged topics by the Open-Chess' censorship :
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This index has already brought good feedback :
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Hello Deeds,

I find your knowledge about Engine Exp interesting.
I am currently creating a new exp for Hypnos++1.02.
10min 13 games, against Dragon 3.3.
Dragon 3.3 does not get an opening book, because I think it distorts the exp of Hypnos++1.02.
Maybe I'm thinking wrong? But it's a try.
Greetings
What can we expect now ?
- since I haven't mentioned any usernames or real names, Open-Chess members who feel targeted will reveal themselves if they respond to this message.
- since we're talking about censorship, this message will be published in several places because it will certainly be poorly received by the Open-Chess' censorship,
- the Open-Chess censor's friends won't be criticized for the flaws in their work, so they can focus on their view count.
- etc.

Good luck to those who will be forced to endure the censored Open-Chess forum...

DeeDs
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Re: Goodbye uncensored Open-Chess forum !

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ps : A few evidence of acts of censorship at Open-Chess

#1 = renamed topics


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Re: Goodbye uncensored Open-Chess forum !

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ps : A few evidence of acts of censorship at Open-Chess

#2 = merged topics

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Re: Goodbye uncensored Open-Chess forum !

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ps : A few evidence of acts of censorship at Open-Chess

#3 = deleted evidence

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Re: Goodbye uncensored Open-Chess forum !

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Re: Goodbye uncensored Open-Chess forum !

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deeds wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 12:44 pm Since I registered at Open-Chess on October 20, 2021, I've posted nearly 1,500 messages, created nearly 50 new topics, shared tools, source codes, data and knowledge.

With private messages disabled, Open-Chess members were able to express their opinions more often in public, reducing hypocrisy and revealing their affinities.

Without censorship :
- Open-Chess members could provide their evidence publicly,
- Open-Chess members could update their topics over several years,
- members of the same family could participate in the same Open-Chess topics with their respective accounts,
- etc.

After years of silence, the Open-Chess admin chose censorship as the future for his forum !

As censor, the Open-Chess' admin chose :
- someone who used spam as candidacy,
- an unproductive member who didn't create any topics nor chess engines nor opening books nor experience files nor chess tools,
- an ignorant member without knowledge on learning engines / experience files to censor those who share their knowledge/tools on these same subjects,
- etc.

So, before Open-Chess' censorship rewrote history :
- by renaming topics without the consent of their author (see #1),
- by attributing bad intentions to me,
- by merging topics with different themes (see #2),
- by attributing their failures to me,
- by deleting evidence (see #3),
I transfered all the topics that I had been updating for years from Open-Chess to Outskirts. As I'm only updating my Outskirts topics so no matter if my Open-Chess topics are renamed, shuffled or deleted, my Open-Chess topics are already deprecated !

As a bonus, I took this opportunity to correct many broken links and create an index to facilitate access to my Outskirts topics. On the left side, my indexed topics at Outskirts and on the right side, my censored and merged topics by the Open-Chess' censorship :
Image

This index has already brought good feedback :
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Hello Deeds,

I find your knowledge about Engine Exp interesting.
I am currently creating a new exp for Hypnos++1.02.
10min 13 games, against Dragon 3.3.
Dragon 3.3 does not get an opening book, because I think it distorts the exp of Hypnos++1.02.
Maybe I'm thinking wrong? But it's a try.
Greetings
What can we expect now ?
- since I haven't mentioned any usernames or real names, Open-Chess members who feel targeted will reveal themselves if they respond to this message.
- since we're talking about censorship, this message will be published in several places because it will certainly be poorly received by the Open-Chess' censorship,
- the Open-Chess censor's friends won't be criticized for the flaws in their work, so they can focus on their view count.
- etc.

Good luck to those who will be forced to endure the censored Open-Chess forum...

DeeDs
Hello, Deeds

I will reply to this message with all the evidence, including the recurring violations of Rules 2 and 3 of this Forum. I will also point you out the facts you omit.

How is it possible that you can write about your side of the story if you have been so censored? In more than 300 topics, you have openly violated the Chapter, which is not the case in your new forum at https://outskirts.altervista.org/forum/. Just to correct another incorrect statement, I had to go over all the posts containing personal attacks by you and other members, and they were also checked and reviewed in the same manner. Harmony is essential.

It also seems you have a strong confusion between:
  • Freedom: In the context of an online forum, it refers to the right of members to express their opinions, share ideas, and engage in discussions within the boundaries of the forum's rules and guidelines. This freedom ensures that users can participate openly without fear of unwarranted censorship, as long as their contributions respect the community standards outlined in the Moderation Charter. For example, Freedom allows for constructive debates and diverse perspectives on a topic.
  • Licentiousness: On the other hand, refers to the abuse or misuse of freedom, where individuals act without regard for rules, respect, or the well-being of the community. In a forum context, this might manifest as behavior that disregards the Moderation Charter, disrupts harmony, or harms other members through offensive, inappropriate, or reckless actions. Licentiousness often crosses ethical or social boundaries under the guise of "freedom," but it undermines the purpose of a structured community.
Please explain why you never created such an index here. If you had done it here instead of all the chaos, it would have been convenient.

It is by nature that your conduct is offensive. This has lowered the quality of the research you conducted on all these old Emans learning files. You may refer to people as ignorant. I am fine with it. If you cannot criticize without mocking and offending others, you violate the chapter.

Outskirts is a very heavily moderated, including the way the members present topics, and there, your style is different for now. Take advantage of the fact that you have now a complete SubForum that allows you to discuss your topic. Hopefully, you will not exhibit the same attitude.

Regards, Moderation.
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Re: Goodbye uncensored Open-Chess forum !

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@ to Supernova

1st of all,
Thank you so much..and no doubt we need more people as you!
You have done really a good moderation job by removing many
Bad postings, which are connected / posted mainly by Deeds!
Mostly of them are as attacks, insults..towards my address!

I noticed also that,
Many of my contra-attacks / re-play postings removed too!
But my respect... in the end, this is as best and right way!
Moreover, all OpenChess members have to follow the rules!
No matter, Deeds or Sedat...should be same rules for all!

On the other hand,
I'd be very happy that if Deeds will be out.. and I'm pretty
Sure that exception Me, many members will be happy too!
Even there is a BIG possibility, OpenChess forum to be
A place with more new and quality forum members, why I
Say like that? E.g during my private mails in past, some
Friends were not interested to be members on OpenChess,
As reason: simply due to Deeds was as active member here...

Just a few words about Outskirts forum strict rules,
Yes, but it depends...if Deeds, the situation changes...
E.g both accounts: Botunnet and Deeds are same guy!
But all we know perfectly that Botunnet was banned,
Where Deeds is moderator in Outskirts chess forum..
In other words, really very funny story.. right ?)

Source (Botunnet on LesChats book thread on Outskirts:
https://outskirts.altervista.org/forum/ ... 7&start=15

Btw, recently I noticed also that,
Deeds blames Me again on Outskirts forum.. such as
I created a Depth4 book based on his shared games...

What I can say more over,
I've created many many based books, maybe 1000+
But so far, no one accused Me in a way. as Deeds...

In other words, what he would expected...?
Deeds will blame, accuse, attacks etc. and
I'll be in silence...SORRY..not in my nature!

That's all for now and keep up the good work!

Best,
Sedat
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Re: Goodbye uncensored Open-Chess forum !

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Source (latest Deeds postings on Outskirts forum):
https://outskirts.altervista.org/forum/ ... 82b#p69543

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Hello Chess Friends,

Via Deeds above recent posting...unfortunately, again
Deeds is 'ungrateful' via these cheap actions...but this
Time he is trying to damage the name of OpenChess (

But Deeds forgets that,
The more he acts, the more he sinks..

What I can say more over,
Really shameful and more sad news is that,
Again Outskirts Mods/Admins are NOT strict,
Hopeless, passive..when Deeds is on attacks!!

Actually nothing new for my side... e.g similar story is
Happened in 2022, when Outskirts Admins closed their eyes
During Unofficial's 1st attacks were towards my address..

And sometimes I wonder,
Who's behind of these accounts: Chis/Unofficial/Botunnet/Deeds?
A well-known programmer or owner or sponsor of Outskirts forum?
Otherwise, no one would be tolerated... after so many attacks..

Anyhow,
The life is like boomerang and as usually the good wins!

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Re: Goodbye uncensored Open-Chess forum !

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deeds wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 12:44 pm As a bonus, I took this opportunity to correct many broken links and create an index to facilitate access to my Outskirts topics.
+1

deeds wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 12:44 pm Good luck to those who will be forced to endure the censored Open-Chess forum...

DeeDs
Well then there are other uncensored forums like
chessgod101
chess engine lovers
more than chess a game
outskorts
prodeo
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Re: Goodbye uncensored Open-Chess forum !

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botunnet wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 12:15 pm
deeds wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 12:44 pm As a bonus, I took this opportunity to correct many broken links and create an index to facilitate access to my Outskirts topics.
+1

deeds wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 12:44 pm Good luck to those who will be forced to endure the censored Open-Chess forum...

DeeDs
Well then there are other uncensored forums like
chessgod101
chess engine lovers
more than chess a game
outskorts
prodeo

Outskirt uncensored... you are joking.

Outskirt is one of the must censored Forums of your list. I prefrer to believe the moderation there is unbiased.

If this Forum is so censored how you still keeping posting here? Can you exhibit a normal behaviour or you have the same confusion as your original!?

To remember as of your original. It also seems you have a strong confusion between:
  • Freedom: In the context of an online forum, it refers to the right of members to express their opinions, share ideas, and engage in discussions within the boundaries of the forum's rules and guidelines. This freedom ensures that users can participate openly without fear of unwarranted censorship, as long as their contributions respect the community standards outlined in the Moderation Charter. For example, Freedom allows for constructive debates and diverse perspectives on a topic
.
  • Licentiousness: On the other hand, refers to the abuse or misuse of freedom, where individuals act without regard for rules, respect, or the well-being of the community. In a forum context, this might manifest as behavior that disregards the Moderation Charter, disrupts harmony, or harms other members through offensive, inappropriate, or reckless actions. Licentiousness often crosses ethical or social boundaries under the guise of "freedom," but it undermines the purpose of a structured community.
This is the last message on this thread. Consider that this one is closed. No more flooding that does not bring value. Thanks.
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